Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Morton's Neuroma Surgery

This past Friday, January 8, 2016, I had surgery on my right foot to remove a Morton's Neuroma that has plagued me for nearly a decade. At first, for many years, the neuroma discomfort was gradual and infrequent but as time went on, it got more painful at more frequent intervals. For many years I didn't know what the cause of the pain was and figured I just had less "padding" (skin and fat) on the ball of my right foot so I avoided walking barefoot because it was uncomfortable. 

Every now and then, typically while on trail runs on slickrock or really rocky trails, the neuroma would flare up and I'd be forced to stop every few miles, take my shoe off and massage my foot and toes for about five minutes at a time to get feeling back in my toes and clear the pain for bit. It worked but was annoying to have to stop frequently to take care of the issue. Then, while running the Mogollon Monster 100 mile race (MOG100) in September 2015, the pain came on around mile 14 making for a VERY long 100 mile race with frequent shoe changes (that didn't really help) and many stops to massage my foot. My guess is because the MOG100 course is so rocky, the rocks beat my feet up quite a bit. That was the final straw...I had to figure out what was going on. 

A few weeks later I went to see a local podiatrist, Dr. Sauer, that had surgically shortened a toe on the same foot way back in April 2004. By the time I went into see Dr. Sauer, I had self-diagnosed myself with Morton's Neuroma after my friend Andy had suggested that may be what I had. Dr. Sauer was quick to come to the same conclusion and had me try three cortisone shots over about six weeks. The shots didn't really bring any serious relief and I was fed up with the pain so I opted for surgery. 

Too sexy
It's been five days since the surgery now and I wanted to document the surgery and my recovery a bit. 

On Friday morning, the surgery went very well and took about an hour. The neuroma was "quite sizable". The surgery took place in the morning and I was out of the hospital by noon and back home on the couch for the rest of the day. I kept my foot elevated and enjoyed some solid couch time.  
Sayonara, sucker!
Dr. Sauer placed a "suction drain" in the incision area to help drain excess fluid and keep swelling to a minimum. I had done a good bit of internet research about this surgery and the experiences of others. I hadn't read about anyone else getting a suction drain but considering I felt no post-op pain at all, I'm pretty sold on the idea of the drain.
Foot in boot with suction drain (two hours post-op)
The afternoon and night of the surgery I took two Percocet pills thinking my foot should start hurting and I wanted to "stay ahead of the pain." As it would turn out, I never felt any post-op pain at all and that would be the only pain pills I took. The rest of the weekend I spent chilling out on the couch watching NFL playoff football with my foot elevated. My foot was in a velcro boot so I could hobble around quite well. 

Monday morning I went to see Dr. Sauer to have the suction drain removed. It was painless and quick...just a quick snip of the suture holding it in and a fast pull of the drain tube from the incision. 
About to remove the drain tube 72 hours post-op
As soon as the drain tube was out, I was able to ditch the boot and slip my foot into my Altra Olympus shoes. The wide forefoot and maximum cushion of the Altra shoes worked well for my beat up foot. It was nice to only be in the boot a few days. 
Four days post-op
Now five days post-op I'm walking around pretty well but with a small "hitch in my giddy-up." But really I'm very pleased with the recovery thus far. Having no pain post-op and being able to get around with only a small limp is encouraging. The stitches will be removed eleven days from now and I'm hopeful by then I'll be walking normally and able to hike trails a bit. 
Five days post-op
One week after surgery I was able to walk pretty normally in my wide, maximally cushioned Altra shoes but still used hiking poles for added stability on trails. My wife and I even did a little rock climbing and climbed one easy route, on top rope, without any major discomfort.
Easy toproping with mis-matched shoes one week post-op

Seven days post-op (first shower)
On the eighth day I was able to stop dressing the stitches and drain incision with gauze because it finally healed up enough. 

Nine days post-op
Eight days post-op I began walking without thinking about my foot and didn't feel the need to modify my stride to avoid rocking up on the ball of my foot. Other than some slight discomfort the first few steps out of bed in the morning, walking was quite comfortable with a slight "bruised" feeling in the ball of my foot when I walked. 

Ten days post-op I went rock climbing again, using bigger, more comfortable climbing shoes and this felt very reasonable. I was able to lead climb and not worry about my foot much. In fact, I think climbing is good therapy because the weight is mostly on my big toe and each step is very calculated. 

Eleven days post-op I did a short run of about a half mile en route to the gym to do some spinning on a stationary bike. I did the spinning with the pedal placed in the arch of my foot to avoid putting too much pressure on the ball of my foot. It felt great to work up a sweat again! 

The Plot Thickens - Two Weeks Post-op

Right at two weeks post-op my right ankle started feeling super painful and was swollen a good bit. It was bad enough I couldn't walk stairs normally at all and had to limp around everywhere. I saw another local foot/ankle doctor and we came to the conclusion that I had incurred a small bit of Achilles tedonitis most likely from wearing zero drop shoes while modifying my gait to avoid putting pressure on the surgical area.  I moved out of the zero drop shoes into more normal shoes and forced myself to walk normally as much as possible in addition to doing some PT exercises to stretch and work the tendons in my ankle. I found good relief in the ankle about three weeks post-op and neared about 80 percent normal feeling in my ankle (it hurt a bit still on deep steps down, etc.) 

February 10, 2016 - Well, four weeks post surgery (February 8th), I decided to try a short run to see how it felt. My short run turned into about four miles because it felt pretty good. Unfortunately, a day after that run my forefoot was swollen, painful and, apparently, infected. I'm not sure the running had anything to do with the infection but the timing seems awfully coincidental. Also, though, I'm sure I had gotten the incision site dirty a couple weeks post-op by wearing sandals so the combo of all of this sure spells disaster.
Nasty staph infection 4.5 weeks post-op

So after a week or so of walking quite normally without pain, I'm back to swollen foot with pain and limping around. I'm doing a few epsom salt bath soaks on my foot daily and started on antibiotics (Cephalexin) yesterday to help clear the infection. Lesson learned: Even though my foot was feeling quite good, four weeks post-op isn't enough recovery time for me to start running again. Also, I should have been better about keeping the incision clean. Drats. My theory now is that I contracted the staph infection by showering in the public shower at work after my run four weeks post-op.

February 22, 2016 - After the ten day course of Keflex (Cephalexin) my foot was feeling better and less swollen. I thought the antibiotics may had done the trick. I finished the antibiotics on Tuesday morning, 2/16. But by Thursday night, the incision area was red and swollen a bit again. I went back in to the doctor on Friday morning where he took a culture of the fluid (there was a still a small slit in the incision that had been draining fluid a bit.) I went back on Keflex starting that morning, 2/19, and back to the Epsom salt foot baths a few times a day. The Keflex made a difference and the area felt better through the weekend but now, Monday morning, it's feeling pretty tender and a bit swollen. I go into a follow-up appointment in a couple hours to hopefully find out the results of the culture. For the first time since the surgery, I'm starting to feel bouts of anxiety and worry--feelings I don't generally ever experience. I'm starting to worry things are really not good and I don't know what that means for my foot and long-term foot health. In a word, I'm scared. 

February 24, 2016 - It turns out the culture of the fluid showed a staph infection. On 2/22/2016 the podiatrist removed the scab from the incision and we found it wasn't very well healed deep down. He did a little bit of cleaning and now we're treating it as an open wound. It's possible the stitches were removed a bit too early to allow it ample healing time but I'm guessing I got the incision dirty (bad patient!) so it's my fault. For now I'm applying Silvadene ointment  twice daily and keeping it covered with a breathable gauze pad. I'll also continue on the second round of Keflex until it's done. In the past two days I haven't really noticed an improvement but it hasn't gotten worse. There's still mild swelling in the forefoot and the area around the incision is red and tender. The area isn't shrinking but not enlarging either. At this point I'm beginning to regret having the surgery. It's been nearly seven weeks and the healing has been poor. I'm wondering if I'll be able to run this spring, or summer, and with Hardrock and PTL on my schedule, it's rather depressing to think about. 

February 26, 2016 - Seven weeks post-op. The Silvadene ointment and bandage treatment seemed to help. The healing is coming along and the soreness in adjacent toes and tendons running the length of my foot is decreasing. Keeping the faith (and keeping it clean!) 
Seven weeks post-op using Silvadene ointment
March 10, 2016 - Right about eight weeks post-op I felt a noticeable change in the healing and, finally, felt encouraged that the worst was behind me. The swelling in the foot was all but gone in the morning, right out of bed, and minimal by the end of the day. My podiatrist concurred that the healing was looking very encouraging and gave me the go-ahead to start running again. I still gave it another five days before going for my first trail run since the surgery on January 8. 
Eight weeks post-op (four weeks post-infection.) Side by side comparison. Note the reduced redness around the healing incision site and the definition in the top of the foot again. I can actually see the tendons!

March 16, 2016 - Hopefully the last update to this continuing saga and blog post! I've run the past three days in a row with no foot pain at all. I can tell it's feeling good because I don't think about it or notice it while running. I'm claiming victory at this point even though there's still some healing taking place at the incision and a scab persists. The swelling and redness are all but gone now. I really do think I would have been at this point by week five post-op had I not incurred the staph infection. That set my healing back by three weeks and was pretty scary. I haven't run long enough yet, nor on technical enough trails, to know if the neuroma pain is completely gone but I'm hopeful it will be. Once I go for my first long, tough trail run, I'll update this blog post once more.  
Thanks to everyone, especially Fritz, who has kept a positive attitude throughout this saga and did their best to keep me positive when I was feeling pretty down. The human body is a pretty amazing thing (as are antibiotics!) 

January 19, 2017 - It's been just over a year and I wanted to add a yearly follow-up. In a nutshell, I'm very glad I went through the surgery. I haven't felt any sign of neuroma pain in my foot in many month. In June 2016, six months after surgery, I ran the San Juan Solstice 50 Mile trail race. In July I ran the Hardrock Hundred 100 mile trail race and in August I ran a 165 miles around Mont Blanc in France and never once experienced any concerning foot pain. My story is a success story. If you're experiencing neuroma pain, I hope you're able to find a fix as I did. 


Steve Pero said...

I was going to suggest Altras and then I read further ;-) These shoes have been a wonder for my neuroma, which isn't all that bad.

Good luck with the healing and Hardrock training!
Miss you guys!

Jason Halladay said...

Thanks Steve. NM misses the Peros, too! I'm really looking forward to healing up and training without the discomfort of this neuroma. I started running in Altras a few months ago and I'm looking forward to many more miles in them. The zero drop hasn't bugged me as I expected it might.

Steve Pero said...

Good to hear and I LOVE the Altras! Actually my favorites are the Superiors. I'm running the Cruel Jewel in May and plan on wearing those.

Good luck with 2016!

Josh said...

That's a great detailed account--really glad that it seemed to go so smoothly and that you're getting back so quickly. Maybe even snow sports now? Something weird's going around town, though, what with all the foot injuries/repairs. I blame the plutonium and the government.

Unknown said...

Jason, Glad to hear you are on the mend. Foot surgery is typically slow to recover from, but you are doing amazing.
Regards, Mike Cappiello

Jason Halladay said...

Thanks +Mike Cappielo and Josh. I appreciate your comments. As far as surgery goes, this one seems quite minor and I'm glad to be healing so quickly as there's snow to be slid!

coldsoil said...

What's the latest? The infection sounds awful--hope you are doing better. I have had increasing neuroma trouble for 10 years, which has seriously limited my distance running the past 2-3 years. I had surgery scheduled about 18 months ago and chickened out but am now planning on surgery in April. Very interested to see how you have fared since your last update since I've had a hard time finding reports from distance/ultra runners on how it's worked out for them.

Jason Halladay said...

Thanks for the comment coldsoil! I'm glad someone is reading this and hopefully my experience will help you make a decision and know what to expect if you end up doing the surgery. I just updated this post with a few more photos and information since February 24th. In short, at about eight weeks post-op I really noticed a healing change and things got better fast. I'm pretty sure I picked up the staph infection in a public shower at week four and that infection set my healing back about three weeks.
I've run the past three days in a row and it's been pain free. The runs haven't been long enough for me to determine if the neuroma pain is gone for good but I'm optimistic now. I'll update this again in a few weeks with a report once I've been able to run longer. Feel free to send me a personal message if you'd like.

Freddie said...

Thank you for sharing your story with us. You have really been through a lot and come out on top which is commendable. My brother suffers from neuroma as well and so i forwarded this link to him to read and get inspired. He has not made the leap to get the surgery done but I am sure he will.

Freddie @ Dr KurtMeier

coldsoil said...

Thanks for your reply. Hope recovery is still going well. I'm on day 1 post op, no suction drain and definitely relying on the pain meds a bit but nothing too awful. Interesting how different surgeons have different requirements. My doc is taking the conservative route, and I have a sterile dressing that I am not to remove for 2 weeks, and will be in a boot that whole time. I have a big rail race over labor day that I am hoping to be healed up in time to train for, so I am going to follow his instructions to a T. It's going to be crazy-making, though!

Jason Halladay said...

I hope your recovery goes great, coldsoil. You're doing it right by heeding the doctor's orders completely. I have no doubt you'll be in great shape for Labor Day. I'm back in the swing of running now and recently did a number of runs on limestone trails without any discomfort. Those types of trails would typically have caused me foot pain but not anymore. Hooray!

Corina said...

I have Morton's Neuroma, and something that has helped me a lot over the last several years ( I have not had surgery for it ) is simply NOT WEARING SOCKS and wearing shoes with a nice, wide toe box. That combination and avoiding many of the poorly designed shoes out there has really helped. I wanted to post this for those of you who have not tried not wearing socks with your shoes because of how much it has helped me, and it's such a simple thing. I can even run this way, in good running shoes with a wide enough toe box... but when I put socks back on, even with the good shoes, it usually acts up again. Please give it a try and see if it helps you while you might be trying to decide on what to do to further treat it.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jason...Thanks for the detailed accounting of your travails with the foot neuroma. I have been battling with one for 4 years and have tried numerous approaches ranging from most conservative to actual surgery 7 days ago. Orthotics...incremental help. Cortisone injections...only worked for a few weeks at at time. Nerve sclerosis with alcohol help whatsoever. Finally 7 days out from a pretty good surgery and in the funky post op black shoe that is pretty much the foots equivalent of a vasectomy!!

Anyway - I'm amazed at how soon you began pushing things and gonna go out on a limb and say you may have been up and running sooner if you had laid off and not pushed only get one pair of feet and not much happens activity wise without them. Nonetheless - glad you made are definitively the "driven" type bro!

Based on your feedback and some of the comments, I ordered a pair of Altras and am excited to give them a try!

Diane lorenti said...

I had surgery two years ago read lots of blogs good and bad ones...had the surgery and my foot is fine now glad I had it done,,, don't know how I got it never wore's two years ago and the healing process is long about a year before it is perfect!!!!!my doctor was a good podiatrists!!!

Unknown said...

My husband has been diagnosed with Morton's Neuroma. He has been in excruciating pain as he stands on his feet 12 hours a day. We have started using a Ten's unit each night and it has made a tremendous difference! Some days he has no pain at all!! A welcomed change that has alleviated so many problems and no surgery!!

jwood said...

Hi, I just had surgery and pray I can plan a ultra for next year. Wow, you jumped right in shortly after your surgery ehh? My Ortho Surgeon plan has me off of it for 2 weeks, elevated and iced. Ease into walking but plan on crutches and no impact (jumping, running, leg press) for 2 months. The concern is developing a Neuroma stump. I guess recent studies show that if not fully healed, impact of the surgical area can cause injury and the stump.
2-3 months off I hope increases the odds of complete long term positive results.
Curious tho, your Ortho was fine with such an early return to activity?

Jason Halladay said...

Hi jwood. Two and a half years later and I'm still completely good to go. I haven't felt, nor thought of, the neuroma so I consider that a huge success. The podiatrist that did my surgery was pretty nonchalant about my seemingly early return to activity. From what he said, the fact that he was removing the neuroma, by definition created a new neuroma because it's a cutting of the nerve.

Shawn Franz said...

Hey Jason Halladay. I was just curious what you use for footwear. I know the Altra’s are good for running but what do you use on an everyday basis? Also, are you able to walk barefoot since the surgery? Thanks


Jason Halladay said...

Hi Shawn, my day to day shoes are generally any of my running shoes or Vans casual shoes. Altra shoes don't work for me because they're zero drop and that beats up my achilles and posterior tibial tendons. Mostly I'm stoked on Saucony Peregrines. I do use the SOLE after market insoles for a bit of arch support. Since the surgery I am able to walk barefoot again. It's wonderful. I no longer think about my neuroma anymore. That, to me, is total success!

Shawn Franz said...

Thanks for the reply Jason! I’ve always worn Vans as I’m an avid bmx rider but maybe it was all of the high impact biking that got me the neuroma in the first place. Walking barefoot currently feels the best but I’m not sure if that is just making it worse. I’ll check out some of the footwear you mentioned. Got an MRI ordered and then it seems like surgery is iniveitable. Thanks for sharing your story! I’ve always been nervous about the surgery but it’s nice to know that it’s really worked for some people.

Jason Halladay said...

I feel your pain, Shawn. I hope some of this is helpful. The Altra shoes are great with the wide forefoot/toebox that allows your toes to spread and not be cramped. Another shoe company, Topo, makes wider toebox shoes similar to Altra but they aren't zero drop (better for some people like me.) I haven't tried the Topo shoes but they look promising.
I'm really glad I did the surgery--it was the right choice for me. I hope you find relief and if you go the surgery route, keep the incision area clean (unlike I did!) :-)

Grey's Anatomy its not... said...

Jason, I came upon your blog while googLing Morton Neuroma surgery recovery. I had mine 2 weeks ago. HELP! I'm having a similar experience. Could you email me at Yes, I'm an RN and a horrible patient! Thank you!

Pat H said...

Glad you are doing well! I am curious as to whether or not you have numbness, and where and how much numbness you have from your operation.

Jason Halladay said...

Hello unknown. I've had no post-op numbness at all,thankfully.

Pat H said...

That's good to know! Thanks Jason!!! said...

Hi everyone. I am 20 days post op. My doctor is a foot and ankle orthopedist at a sports clinic. The surgery was about an hour, and I was told you elevate as much as possible for 2 weeks. He said I could walk in the boot right away, of course the first 2 days were slow and agonizing. After that it was a bit difficult and slow but not excruciating. At day 6 I started walking short distances without the boot but with the bandages on (7 feet or so) on occasion and walked 5 blocks with the boot. I also started taking baby steps barefoot once or twice a day. The bruising lasted until about the 14th day post surgery. I am bruise free now. My external stitches are gone but the internal ones are still dissolving.
As far as pain, only days 2 and 3 were bad in that my body would not even let me press my foot down to see just how painful it was. I went off pain meds day 3. After that it was painful but not terrible- think a bad bruise. I now have a little bit of surgical pain left, but I feel a neuroma type pain if I handle or massage near the incision site. The skin above it also feels really raw and tender, like a very bad sunburn.
The scar is healing so much better than I expected. The doctor really outdid himself there. The incision itself looks like no more than a scrape, and the stitch entry points didn’t leave a scar, unlike other times I’ve needed stitches where I look like a pirate.
The doctor claimed I could be back running at two weeks, but it was too optimistic. I did use the elliptical at two weeks and yesterday night practiced some very slow and controlled ballet raises and did a few kickboxing moves.
I am healing well but very anguish about the stump neuromas I read about. I am using brand new gym shoes which I think is important to avoid introducing bacteria to the area. At night I massage the incision very lightly using an ointment with comfrey and St. John’s Wort.
Hope this helps anyone out there who is getting this surgery! said...

And as far as numbness, it still feels like I’m stepping on a skinny branch when I walk, and there’s no feeling between the toes whatsoever. My third nd fourth toe were numb for a few days after surgery.

Pat H said...

Is it hard to get use to? Thanks for your reply🙂 said...

Hi Pat. I had the surgery in December. I’m number between the two toes where the neuroma was but it’s really not a big deal. Lots of intense shooting pain when I manipulate under my foot arch but I’m being patient. Nerve recovery is along and I suspect many of the horror stories are from people who expect full recovery at 4 months. My scar is already barely perceptible and I can walk and exercise normally. said...

Quick update- I started running again at week 5. I did a short 3 mile run. There was only mild discomfort. After week 6 I started running my normal 5 miles without any pain or trouble.
I’m at week 8 now. The underside of my foot still gets intense electric type feelings if I touch it but not when I walk, jump or run.
The numbness is strange only if I touch the area between the toes. I got used to it.

Jason Halladay said...

Thanks for the update on your recovery. Glad to hear it's feeling so well after five weeks. I suspect the electric pain you experience when you touch it will eventually dissipate too.

Shawn Franz said...

Curious how your foot is doing now, a year later?

Jason Halladay said...

Shawn Franz, it has been five years now since my neuroma surgery and it has been trouble free. I never think about it any more and don't have any neuroma pain like I used to. A definite success story.

Shawn Franz said...

Thanks Jason. That's awesome...I'm one week post-surgery right now. Just curious if you remember doing any self massage or went for a massage for your foot during your recovery? Do you find you have any lingering scar tissue / stiffness in that area of your foot? Thanks for the reply!

Jason Halladay said...

Hey Shawn, glad you got it done and you're on you way to recovery. I never did do any massaging of the foot or scar tissue post-op. I don't have any stiffness in that area of my foot and if I try to dig into it to find thicker tissue, I can't really feel anything.

Shawn Franz said...

Thanks for your replies, Jason! 2 months out of surgery and most of the swelling is gone...but if I lightly press on the metatarsal bones beneath my foot they feel very bruised (which I'd way rather take over nerve pain but still an annoyance). Wondering if you had a similar experience at all - is it just a matter of months for the rest of the swelling / healing process to take place? It doesn't hurt to walk at this point but I'm worried I'm causing this bruising. Any recollection of your experience with this? Thanks.

Jason Halladay said...

Hi Shawn. With my issues with the infection of the incision, it was hard for me to tell what discomfort was related to what. I do seem to recall some tenderness for a few months that was uncomfortable but not like the neuroma pain was. I'd suspect that too will heal up as the nerve heals. Best wishes!

Unknown said...

Who did your surgery? I live in dallas, tx. Going through hell. Can't find doctor i trust.

Unknown said...

I live in dallas. Need doctor i trust. Neuromas bothfeet. Right very flared up.

Unknown said... need doctor recommendations. Live in dallas. Willtravel.

Jason Halladay said...

Marbethrichmond, the podiatrist I worked with has retired. I would think a local podiatrist would be able to help you though, especially in a large market like Dallas. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Thanks so much for this information. I’ve really sufferred with my neyroma and it dramatically affected my physical activity. Had it injected which worked well furst two times, but now neurima is very big so having surgery two days from now. Reading these posts has really made ne feel much better about the surgery - thanks very much!!